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		<title>Comment on linux / unix kernel parameters follow-up by dhoogfr</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/linux-unix-kernel-parameters-follow-up/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>dhoogfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muthu,

The limit you are experiencing is not a memory limit, but a build in limitation of oracle XE.
Oracle XE is a free version of the oracle database and therefore has been limited to a maximum of 4 GB in size.
The only real option you have if you need more then 4GB of data is to upgrade to a full oracle version (I think the cheapest version would be oracle standard edition one).

Check following links for more information about oracle express:

http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/pdf/dbxe_datasheet.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muthu,</p>
<p>The limit you are experiencing is not a memory limit, but a build in limitation of oracle XE.<br />
Oracle XE is a free version of the oracle database and therefore has been limited to a maximum of 4 GB in size.<br />
The only real option you have if you need more then 4GB of data is to upgrade to a full oracle version (I think the cheapest version would be oracle standard edition one).</p>
<p>Check following links for more information about oracle express:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/pdf/dbxe_datasheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/pdf/dbxe_datasheet.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on linux / unix kernel parameters follow-up by Muthu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muthu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I had installed 10g XE, I have created a new user in th DB while importing the dump its gives the error
can't import more than 4GB.( Alredy data files are around 4GB).
plz give any solution to resolve the problem.

Muthu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I had installed 10g XE, I have created a new user in th DB while importing the dump its gives the error<br />
can&#8217;t import more than 4GB.( Alredy data files are around 4GB).<br />
plz give any solution to resolve the problem.</p>
<p>Muthu</p>
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		<title>Comment on bugs introduced via patches by Sefa Şahin</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/bugs-introduced-via-patches/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Sefa Şahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good docs. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good docs. thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oracle VM: a first installation attempt by Ramon</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/oracle-vm-a-first-installation-attempt/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the iso tip, you saved may day. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the iso tip, you saved may day. :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oracle VM: a first installation attempt by janos ujvari</title>
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		<dc:creator>janos ujvari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this description it was very helpful.
Janos Ujvari
May, 13. 2008.
Subotica, Vojvodina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this description it was very helpful.<br />
Janos Ujvari<br />
May, 13. 2008.<br />
Subotica, Vojvodina</p>
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		<title>Comment on fun with frequenty based histograms by dhoogfr</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/fun-with-frequenty-based-histograms/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>dhoogfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Volker,

But then how would oracle know that the table has grown?
If the dba_tables.num_rows is not changed, the extrapolated result will not change if the table grows (or shrinks)

The only reason i can think of why oracle stores the sample result and not the extrapolated numbers, is that it is now easier to go behinds the cbo's back to change the expected cardinality (by changing the num_rows).

In theory you could thus gather histograms once and then just change the num_rows to cope with the growth of the table.
But I'm not sure if this is something I would advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volker,</p>
<p>But then how would oracle know that the table has grown?<br />
If the dba_tables.num_rows is not changed, the extrapolated result will not change if the table grows (or shrinks)</p>
<p>The only reason i can think of why oracle stores the sample result and not the extrapolated numbers, is that it is now easier to go behinds the cbo&#8217;s back to change the expected cardinality (by changing the num_rows).</p>
<p>In theory you could thus gather histograms once and then just change the num_rows to cope with the growth of the table.<br />
But I&#8217;m not sure if this is something I would advice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on fun with frequenty based histograms by Volker Kleinschmidt</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/fun-with-frequenty-based-histograms/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Volker Kleinschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, if you add more records into the table after stats were gathered, there is a somewhat imprecise but nevertheless sensible assumption that they would be distributed similarly to the existing records. So if you don't store the extrapolated numbers but the actual sample results, and extrapolate on the fly, then the CBO can make sensible decisions even if the table has grown 100%.

Of course, regathering stats is always recommended when there's dramatic change in data, but the method used by Oracle still strikes me as more robust since it can deal with such data change for a while with (hopefully) only slightly degraded accuracy. If it stored the extrapolated results for cardinality, even relatively small changes to the data would make those stored results significantly wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, if you add more records into the table after stats were gathered, there is a somewhat imprecise but nevertheless sensible assumption that they would be distributed similarly to the existing records. So if you don&#8217;t store the extrapolated numbers but the actual sample results, and extrapolate on the fly, then the CBO can make sensible decisions even if the table has grown 100%.</p>
<p>Of course, regathering stats is always recommended when there&#8217;s dramatic change in data, but the method used by Oracle still strikes me as more robust since it can deal with such data change for a while with (hopefully) only slightly degraded accuracy. If it stored the extrapolated results for cardinality, even relatively small changes to the data would make those stored results significantly wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on October cpu patch by dhoogfr</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/october-cpu-patch/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>dhoogfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dion,

The problem I had was that the oracle user was no longer capable of writing the lockfile to the locks directory, not the lockfile itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dion,</p>
<p>The problem I had was that the oracle user was no longer capable of writing the lockfile to the locks directory, not the lockfile itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on rman backup to tape when you don&#8217;t have a tape by dhoogfr</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/rman-backup-to-tape-when-you-dont-have-a-tape/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>dhoogfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yogesh,

I did not know that, thanks for the tip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yogesh,</p>
<p>I did not know that, thanks for the tip</p>
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		<title>Comment on October cpu patch by Dion</title>
		<link>http://freekdhooge.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/october-cpu-patch/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Doc ID: 	Note:73123.1

I just removed the lock file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Doc ID: 	Note:73123.1</p>
<p>I just removed the lock file.</p>
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